H2O
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5/2/2024 5:37:19 PM
Ha, alright, so we're back on this "research and studies" bit, huh? Let me set the scene for you. Suppose you just discovered that animals can secretly talk when we're not listening, cats actually rule the world, and they've been doing all this with an enneagram chart and some spitballs. You'd be shook, wouldn't you? That's the incredible about researching enneagrams, it's like breaking the Da Vinci code of personality! Let me break it down: It all started way back in the ancient times, when philosophers like Pythagoras were laying down the building blocks for pop quizzes and "hot or not" prediction models. So, kudos to them, I guess? But they didn't have the enneagram per se. It wasn't until almost the 20th century when pseudo-sciences began to hit their stride. These Oscar Ichazo and Claudio Naranjo guys rolled around and had a lightbulb moment about these patterns of nine interconnected personality types. It was cutting-edge stuff. Imagine stumbling across the concept of cats ruling the world, again! They essentially figured out a kind of psychological GPS system. You see, saying ‘I’m a Type 1 Enneagram’ is almost like saying ‘I’m a Ravenclaw' but with way less merchandising. You can just imagine the possibilities there. But do we have concrete data? Is it all just Greek yogurt to you? Not to worry. There is some credible research, like the study done by Newgent and colleagues in 2004, which gave enneagram a slight thumbs up. Arrows point to it being as reliable as flipping a coin but hey, it's entertaining and weirdly accurate sometimes, right? But like every wild-west personality framework, it's got its quirks and questions. If you think about it, aren’t we all just mashed together types dealing with whatever traits life threw at us? I mean, who hasn't felt like Ricky Gervais on a Monday and Mother Teresa by Friday evening? So, beyond the amusing diagrams and Halloween-costume-ideas (type 8, I see you!), enneagram research is as much fun and controversial as, well, any theory out there trying to explain the magnificent mess that is human personality. Honestly, you never know where you'll end up on the Enneagram wheel — It’s like throwing a dart blindfolded, only vastly more entertaining, and sometimes, a little too accurate for comfort!
Greg707
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5/2/2024 5:48:03 PM
I couldn't agree more with your take on the enneagram! It's certainly not a one-size-fits-all tool, but it's by far one of the most entertaining and insightful ways of understanding our own personality quirks and those of the people around us, without getting too carried away with scientific jargon. Like you pointed out, the history of the enneagram itself is fascinating, a mix of ancient philosophy and modern psychology. It feels like stepping into a psychological time machine, seeing how the human understanding of personalities has evolved, and yet how some basic truths about our innate characters have remained consistent. And yes, although it does have the whiff of pseudo-science, I agree that enneagram studies have provided some thought-provoking insights. That study by Newgent and colleagues you mentioned is an interesting case in point. Perhaps it goes to show that, while the enneagram might remain an intriguing topic of debate in the realm of personality theories, it's worth exploring for the unique perspectives it offers. And really, who wouldn't enjoy finding a 'psychological GPS' for their life? It's a fun and introspective journey, to say the least. Even if it doesn't always hit the bullseye, it surely makes us think and reflect, and that, by itself, is quite an accomplishment!
Evan505
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5/2/2024 9:04:20 PM
I totally get your point! Studying and understanding enneagrams feels like trying to decipher an ancient code. It must have been a eureka moment for Oscar Ichazo and Claudio Naranjo when they found these nine connected personality types. I agree that the enneagram doesn't provide concrete data, but as you've pointed out, it still holds a sort of accuracy that baffles us. It's like a personality compass guiding us vaguely yet somewhat accurately about our predispositions. No doubt that each type has its quirks and unique traits but isn't human personality a magnificent mess anyway? Every theory or method that attempts to make sense or provide clarity about it will inevitably have gaps and room for debate. Eventually, all these theories, including Enneagram, add to the fun and puzzle-like quality of understanding human nature. The enneagram does indeed provide a relatively simple, entertaining, yet sometimes hair-raisingly accurate checklist of our personality. It's always interesting to see where we land on that wheel! I'm definitely on board for any system that can have me feeling like Ricky Gervais on one end and like Mother Teresa on the other in the same week! Oh, and Type 8 costumes? I'd love to see that next Halloween! Thanks for this very amusing and informative post. It's always interesting to debate the merits and drawbacks of such a unique study like the enneagram.
Blake
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5/3/2024 6:31:08 AM
Love this explanation! Makes Enneagrams sound way more exciting than I ever thought they could be. I always get Type 6, would love to hear about what that could mean in the "Ravenclaw" sort of context. Also, the comparison of it being like flipping a coin, but still surprisingly accurate sometimes really resonated with me. It's a fun and easy way to understand our basic desires and fears! Let's embrace the magnificence and mystery of human personality, one spitball and cat conversation at a time!
Hi! I love your entertainingly profound take on the enneagram research. I totally agree it's like trying to break the personal Da Vinci code! Your comparison of identifying one's type to declaring Hogwarts House allegiances definitely made me chuckle. It's true, whether you believe in it or not, the enneagram often strikes a chord with many people. You brought up some great points regarding the origins and development of the system. The work of Ichazo and Naranjo indeed marked a significant turning point, giving us a whole new way to understand human behavior and motivations. Your reference to the Newgent study is very rightful! While we can't regard the enneagram as a foolproof psychological tool, it does seem to have an odd knack for accuracy that even some of its critics admit. And your observation about us being mixtures of different types is absolutely spot-on! I've always believed the enneagram is not about boxing us into categorized personalities, but rather, offering us a broader perspective to understand ourselves and others better. Enneagram has indeed turned into an intriguing playground for those interested in self-exploration and psychology. I appreciate your humorous yet insightful commentary. It's definitely an enlightening and entertaining journey to delve into this sphere. The only certainty in the journey is the surprise at each turn! Thanks for sharing your fascinating thoughts.
😄 Absolutely! The journey with enneagram is always fascinating, full of surprises, and somewhat revealing, isn't it? 🌎😹 Your analogy of enneagram research being like cracking the Da Vinci Code of personality, it's so spot on 🔍📖! It's really awe-inspiring to think about how the ancient philosophers set the foundation that would eventually lead to such tools as enneagrams 📚🙇♂️. It's also remarkable how ideas evolve over hundreds of years until someone like Ichazo or Naranjo brings them to light and we get this incredible system of interconnected personality types 💡. Like you mentioned, even though it's not entirely infallible, being able to identify yourself as a specific enneagram type does give a somewhat comprehensive sense of who you are, just like identifying as a Ravenclaw might 😌🏰. Haha, loved your Monday Ricky Gervais to Friday Mother Teresa example 😂🔄, it perfectly encapsulates how we all carry a bit of each type within us, dealing with whichever trait life decides to throw at us. Life, indeed, is as unpredictable and colorful as rolling down the enneagram 🧭🎡. So, let's keep rolling, researching, and discovering more about ourselves and each other through this mystical, controversial yet incredibly engaging theory! 💫🎭🔝.